Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 260 Location: All over Mexico
Shane Claiborne
"God is not saying to the poor, to the suffering children, 'come find the church.' But He is saying to the church, 'go into the world and find Me where I'm suffering, find Me where I'm thirsty, find Me where I'm hungry, find Me where I'm in prison, find Me where I'm homeless and take Me in.'"
-Shane Claiborne
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Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:37 am
JamesGoddard
Joined: 26 Sep 2007 Posts: 7 Location: Atlanta
oh man!!! i love shane claiborne!!
such a good heart. I love that quote and i love that book.....
that book is truly a life changer!
~J
Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:21 pm
Brock Nevitt
Joined: 26 Sep 2007 Posts: 117 Location: physically atl, but my heart is still in THE QC CHARLOTTE NC!!!!!!!!
What book is it?
Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:44 am
Just_a_Son
Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 260 Location: All over Mexico
Hey Brother,
The book is called "Irresistable Revolution", it really has touched and changed alot of peoples hearts on what it means to really Follow Christ.
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Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:17 am
AnthonyFlowers Site Admin
Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 129 Location: Norcross, GA
Adam & Everyone,
This is a litany that Shane Claiborne gave at the Catalyst Conference this past year in Atlanta. I saw that you posted about him, and I wanted you to be able to see it, but I also wanted to wait a little while until our Master's Commission had become more familiar with the Post-Modern Movement.
After he got done there was an awkward silence followed by a strange mixture of cheering and booing. It was definitely a controversial message. I don't think that it was a welcomed one.
I've thought a ton about some of the things that he mentions in his speech...
War...
Nationalism...
Democracy...
Wealth...
Blackened Earth...
Community Breakdown...
Consumerism...
And More...
I think there is a lot of painful truth to what he said. What do you think? It makes me sad to think that we cannot bear to hear mention that what we do, what we support, what we teach, may be evil and corrupt. I fear that those who loved what he had to say continued as they lived before this speech, and that those who hated it did the same.
Here's the actual speech:
ONE: Lamb of God, You take away the sins of the world ALL: Have mercy on us ONE: Lamb of God, You take away the sins of the world ALL: Free us from bondage to sin and death ONE: Lamb of God, You take away the sins of the world ALL: Hear our prayers prince of peace ONE: For the victims of war ALL: Have mercy ONE: Women, men, and children ALL: Have mercy ONE: The maimed and the crippled ALL: Have mercy ONE: The abandoned and the homeless ALL: Have mercy ONE: The imprisoned and the tortured ALL: Have mercy ONE: The widowed and the orphaned ALL: Have mercy ONE: The bleeding and the dying ALL: Have mercy ONE: The weary and the desperate ALL: Have mercy ONE: The lost and the forsaken ALL: Have mercy ONE: Oh God have mercy on us sinners ALL: Forgive us for we know not we do ONE: For our scorched and blackened earth ALL: Forgive us ONE: For the scandal of billions wasted in war ALL: Forgive us ONE: For our arms makers and our arms dealers ALL: Forgive us ONE: For our Caesars and our Herods ALL: Forgive us ONE: For the violence that is rooted in our own hearts ALL: Forgive us ONE: For the times that we turn others into enemies ALL: Forgive us ONE: Deliver us oh God ALL: Turn our feet to the way of peace ONE and ALL: Hear our prayer, grant us peace ONE: From the arrogance of power ALL: Deliver us ONE: From the myth of redemptive violence ALL: Deliver us ONE: From the tyranny of greed ALL: Deliver us ONE: From the ugliness of racism ALL: Deliver us ONE: From the cancer of hatred ALL: Deliver us ONE: From the seduction of wealth ALL: Deliver us ONE: From the addiction of control ALL: Deliver us ONE: From the idolatry of nationalism ALL: Deliver us ONE: From the paralysis of cynicism ALL: Deliver us ONE: From the violence of apathy ALL: Deliver us ONE: From the ghettos of poverty ALL: Deliver us ONE: From the ghettos of wealth ALL: Deliver us ONE: From the lack of imagination ALL: Deliver us ONE: Deliver us oh God ALL: Turn our feet to the way of peace ONE: We will not conform to the patterns of this world ALL: Let us be transformed by the renewing of our minds ONE: With the help of God's grace ALL: Let us resist evil wherever we find it ONE: With the waging of war ALL: We will not comply ONE: With the legalization of murder ALL: We will not comply ONE: With the slaughter of innocents ALL: We will not comply ONE: With laws that betray human life ALL: We will not comply ONE: With the destruction of community ALL: We will not comply ONE: With the pointing finger and malicious talk ALL: We will not comply ONE: With the idea that happiness must be purchased ALL: We will not comply ONE: With the ravaging of the earth ALL: We will not comply ONE: With principalities and powers that oppress ALL: We will not comply ONE: With the destructions of peoples ALL: We will not comply ONE: With the raping of women ALL: We will not comply ONE: With governments that kill ALL: We will not comply ONE: With the theology of empire ALL: We will not comply ONE: With the business of militarism ALL: We will not comply ONE: With the hording of riches ALL: We will not comply ONE: With the dissemination of fear ALL: We will not comply ONE: But today we pledge our ultimate allegiance to the Kingdom of God ALL: We pledge allegiance ONE: To the peace that is not like Rome's ALL: We pledge allegiance ONE: To the gospel of enemy love ALL: We pledge allegiance ONE: To the kingdom of the poor and the broken ALL: We pledge allegiance ONE: To the King who loves His enemies so much he died for them ALL: We pledge allegiance ONE: To the least of these with whom Christ dwells ALL: We pledge allegiance ONE: To the transnational church that transcends artificial borders of nations ALL: We pledge allegiance ONE: To the refugee of Nazareth ALL: We pledge allegiance ONE: To the homeless rabbi who had no place to lay his head ALL: We pledge allegiance ONE: To the cross rather than the sword ALL: We pledge allegiance ONE: To the banner of love above any flag ALL: We pledge allegiance ONE: To the one who rules with a towel rather than an iron fist ALL: We pledge allegiance ONE: To the one who rides a donkey rather than a war horse ALL: We pledge allegiance ONE: To the revolution that sets both oppressed and oppressors free ALL: We pledge allegiance ONE: To the way that leads to life ALL: We pledge allegiance ONE: To the slaughtered lamb ALL: We pledge allegiance ONE: And we together proclaim His praises from the margins of the empire to the centers of wealth and power: ONE and ALL: Long live the Slaughtered Lamb
I would really like to have a conversation about this speech. We can talk about part of it, all of it, one line, one theme, whatever. I hope that everyone who reads this post at least takes the time to really listen to it. It challenged many of my beliefs, and even ended up changing a few.
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Sun May 11, 2008 12:13 pm
Just_a_Son
Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 260 Location: All over Mexico
Anthony, Brother..
What to really say to something this amazingly gentle, yet controversial...sounds alot like someone who we both know who asked all of us here to "Follow..." not to long ago eh? Man..where to really begin...it is amazing man..the whole thing..please give me some time to think about what he said and I will get back to you on this brother...talk about intense..man..
I am trying to figure out what to say to continue this conversation man..but I am at loss for some words man..I will get back to you soon on it. I just really really like it..
"To the one who rides a donkey, rather than a war-horse."
" To the Revolution that sets both oppressors and oppressed FREE..."
" To the WAY that leads to life..."
...To the banner of Love, rather than a flag..
it all is good and amazing..it might be changing my heart on some things..
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Sun May 11, 2008 2:02 pm
Just_a_Son
Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 260 Location: All over Mexico
"..with the waging of War."
..Tony, this reminds me alot of what you posted to me earler on in the month of March I THINK. That THOSE WHO FOLLOW HIM WILL LIVE TO SEE A DAY WHEN THERE IS NO MORE WAR..
..just thinking about that..no more war..and no more hatred to cause it. No more greed or lust to start the struggle for power. Humanity as a whole will be content with what He has and will not lust nor desire for more..we (Those who follow Him to the end of our lives...more specifically, those who endure to the End and have the Kingdom in their hearts and lives as He did, I guess) But Humanity will be of a completely New Nature..amazing.
We NEED GRACE AND MERCY..everyday He gives it to us so freely and self-lessly..it is too much to ask for..amazing..so there are just some of my thoughts..G-D help us find your peace everyday of our lives...
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